To: devnull@onion.rain.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) From: devnull@onion.rain.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) Reply-To: devnull@onion.rain.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) Sender: devnull@onion.rain.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) Errors-To: postmaster@onion.rain.com Return-Path: devnull@onion.rain.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) Precedence: bulk Bcc: falcon3-outgoing Subject: Falcon3 Digest V5 : I17 Falcon3 Digest Volume 5 : Issue 17 Sun Dec 5 11:39:48 PST 1993 Compilation copyright (C) 1993 Jeff Beadles Send submissions to "falcon3@onion.rain.com" Send add/drop requests to "majordomo@onion.rain.com" Archives are available via ftp from onion.rain.com [147.28.0.161] and mirrored on cactus.org in /pub/falcon3 Today's Topics: Mig-29 performance against the "rea knutson@cactus.org (Jim Knutson) H2H Falcon... Jeff Duvall ------------------------------------------------------------ From: knutson@cactus.org (Jim Knutson) Subject: Mig-29 performance against the "real" thing I have been reading the book "Fulcrum" by Alexander Zuyev. He's the Russian pilot who defected with a Mig-29 to the West. The book is quite interesting and I would recommend it. In it he describes a combat wing readiness test in which you start at 6000' AGL, go full afterburner, pitch down 10 degrees to descend to 3000' AGL and go flat out for 75nm. In his description he said he reached a speed of 805 kts. I decided to try Mig-29 1.00 (haven't upgraded yet) to see how it compared. I set it to the realistic flight model, loaded lesson 1 in Red Flag and started off. Other than fighting the trim and having to hold a 5 degree nose down pitch to maintain my 3000', it was pretty much the same as the book. I achieved a speed of 810 kts. Of course, the difference could be between their true altitude and Red Flag's 3000' AGL true altitude as the higher I crept up, the faster I went. I have no idea on how true the book is on performance specs, but it probably isn't far off. I'm also surprised at how well Mig-29 actually matched the spec. Jim Knutson | | knutson@cactus.org --=oOo=-- cs.utexas.edu!peyote!knutson + ------------------------------- From: Jeff Duvall Subject: H2H Falcon... My uncle and I are just beginning to attempt playing head to head with falcon3. I'm on a 486sx-25 and calling with a 2400 baud modem, and he's on a 386sx-16 answering with a 2400. We are both up to version 3.02 patch level. I just have some questions. 1.) Is it worth while to even attempt this a such at low baud rate? 2.) What kind of connect times should be expect at this speed? 20 min? 1 hour? 2 hours? ;) 3.) Should we upgrade to 3.02.01? Thanks for the help. By the way, I just wanted to add that I think the list is great. Good work, Jeff! If you have any hints on a place that I can get internet access in the Southwest Washington region (Longview) I'd sure appreciate it. ___________________________________________________________________________ Jeff DuVall | University of Washington, Seattle, Washington | Internet: mirage@u.washington.edu (O) Phone: (206) 528-4660 X--------<_._>--------X @@ (___) @@ ___________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------- From: Kevin Franden Subject: Lag Time (was: Thrustmaster FCS) > From: ""Jay Hui" Aliasfile: ~/.mh_alias" > Subject: Thrustmaster FCS > > When I started to use the joystick, say in Mig29, I found that there is > considerable 'lag' between turning, because there is such a long throw > between "point-to-point"... I don't know for sure but I suspect that this is "supposed" to be like this (hold on and I'll explain). When your cranked out in a 9g turn and suddenly flip the stick the opposite way it takes a fair amount of energy (read time and distance) for your plane to get level and then to start the turn in the opposite direction. Now, the flight model may not be 100 percent correct but there is still a more excellent way. A better move is called a split-S. When in a hard turn and the bandit breaks across your nose, continue the roll in the same direction ALL THE WAY THROUGH. Before you know it you'll be pointed in the opposite direction and nearly on the bandit's six. My point is, even it the flight model or hardware is not quite up to snuff, you should still try to practice good BFM. The split-S was the first BFM (Basic Flight Manuver) I learned (it's REAL easy). It opened up a whole new world to me (immelman's, yo-yo's, wing- over's, side-slipping (ok, ok, I started flight sims on "Red Baron" and "Aces of the Pacific" (both still pretty good, IMHO)). The falcon manual as I recall goes over a few BFM's but Shaw's book is a bit better. Hope this helps. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Kevin Franden Informix Software, Inc. [ 8 lines of signature deleted - Jeff ] ------------------------------- [[ End of digest Volume 5 : Issue 17 ]]