To: falcon3 (Falcon3 Mailing list) Reply-To: falcon3 (Falcon3 Mailing list) Errors-To: postmaster@onion.rain.com Precedence: bulk Bcc: falcon3-outgoing Subject: Falcon3 Digest V4 : I33 Falcon3 Digest Volume 4 : Issue 33 Fri Aug 20 05:52:05 PDT 1993 Compilation copyright (C) 1993 Jeff Beadles Send submissions to "falcon3@onion.rain.com" Send add/drop requests to "majordomo@onion.rain.com" Archives are available via ftp from onion.rain.com [147.28.0.161] and mirrored on cactus.org in /pub/falcon3 Today's Topics: Best Books Charles Fornaciari Cannon shots in Mig-29 Jason_Burrell@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Ja Red Out Korhonen Tommi Mig Enemy colors MORGAN@WVUGEO.WVNET.EDU Debriefing + buffet + REAL Falcon P att!ihlpf!opus@uunet.uu.net ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Charles Fornaciari Subject: Best Books > From: rogers@sol.instrumental.com (Bob Rogers) > Subject: Best Book? > > My limited Falcon experience seems to indicate that knowing how the simulated > elements work and interact is a key to mission planning, which is, in turn, > the key to winning. Which of the 3 3rd party Falcon is the best with regards > to telling me how the game "thinks"? There's currently three books on the market for Falcon 3: "Falcon 3: The Complete Handbook," by Joel Powell and Tom "K.C." Basham. The Waite Group Press. ISBN: 1-878739-29-8 (list price about $34.95) "Falcon 3: The Official Combat Strategy Book," by Howard Bornstein. Prima Publishing. ISBN: 1-55958-160-3 (list price about $27.95, though I've seen it as low as $19.95 at Electronics Boutique) "Falcon 3.0 Air Combat" by Pete Bonanni and Bernard Yee. Silicon Valley. ISBN: 0-07-881701-3 (list price $19.95) The first two books are excellent, but for different reasons. The third book doesn't give much more information than the manual, and I really don't recommend it. For your question, Bornstein's book is the best concerning the programming behind Falcon 3. He gives a bunch on insight on things that are not always obvious, such as how far wingman can really see, how far they can lock up with missiles, what the true missile ranges are, etc. *However*, Bornstein only covers through 3.0E and 3.01.1, so I'm not completely sure what's applicable to 3.02 and what's not. Tom Basham and Stuart Butts were both 3.02/MiG-29 beta testers, so they can probably tell you what's been changed and what hasn't been changed. The best all-around book is Powell and Basham's. It's essentially two halves. The first half is aimed at the novice F3 pilot while the second half goes into a lot of detail about campaigns, mission planning, HFR, etc. IMO, this is a *must have book* for any F3 pilot, no matter how much (or little) you use Falcon. With it you'll learn how to set up, and win, campaigns. Soooooo, you may want Bornstein's book, but I'd buy Powell and Basham's first because it's definitiely the all-around most valuable of the three books. Charles Fornaciari ------------------------------- From: jeeem@aol.com Subject: Need h2h opponent in Little Rock Hello everyone. I just subscribed and so far the list looks great. Is anybody out there in Little Rock, AR? I've played several long-distance matches, and it's great fun, but very costly. Jim ------------------------------- From: Chera Bekker Subject: High detail in Falcon 3.02 I don't know if this has been noted before, but since patching my F3 to version 3.02 the 'loadhi' and/or 'objects/sobjects' trick to get high detail doesn't work anymore (at least for me). I use QEMM 6.0 with 4dos4.02 and i have about 625K conventional memory free. If I start Falcon3 with loadhi /link falcon3 [loadhi /unlink] I get an 'insufficient memory' error from F3 when I go to instant action or when I take off in a campaign. The same happens when I copy objects to sobjects. I used the 'loadhi' trick with version 3.01.1 and it worked fine. Anyone have idea's? Regards Chera H.G. Bekker E-mail: bekker@tn.utwente.nl Faculty of Applied Physics Voice: +3153893107 University of Twente Fax: +3153354003 The Netherlands ------------------------------- From: Jason_Burrell@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Jason Burrell) Subject: Cannon shots in Mig-29 SB> > I do love the cannon itself though. One shot crippled a SB> >night. SB> SB> One five round burst, or a longer burst? I have never been SB> out another plane with just one five round burst, even when SB> an unmaneuvering target from directly astern at very close r Well, I got behind this F/A-18 and (very lucky shot), got the autocannon on the guy.. I fired a shot (5 rounds), then the AC fired a shot.. Seems that in 3.02 the place where the shot or shrapnel hits depends on the severity of the damage, as well as what is damaged.. Can anyone verify this? It is my probably flawed understanding that during redout, blood vessels in the eyes rupture causing the red-effect. The blood gets thrown into the head... Ouch, imagine the pain! Remember when you were little kids? Remember when the kids would make a fist, hold their wrist and shove their chin into their palm of their hand; all the while flexing the hand? Then you open the hand and remove your hand and its totally, utterly, white? It would make sense if that is how your feet and hands look during redout. I took off in Mig-29 earlier today and got a rather warm reception from Bitchin' Baboshka. "Warning! Warning!" I look at the caution panel and see damage to: Engine, Ord, HUD, Flaps, Brakes... Argh! The only thing I can think of is that I over-g'ed the plane on takeoff, but at 150kts or so, I can't see how. Does anyone know if it is possible to designate places for friendly columns to attack? I think I heard something about that long, long ago, in a theatre far, far, away. The Mig-29 has great manueverability, although the weapons loads are a little restrictive.. 2 A-G missiles, 36 rockets or 72 rockets, no A-G missiles. No automated CCIP display... Mig's may have nice features, but what they lack is horrible! :-) - -- Jason_Burrell@fcircus.sat.tx.us Device Driver Stacker.sys not found. Hit (P) to panic! -- PGP public key available upon request. ------------------------------- From: Korhonen Tommi Subject: Red Out Ok, I am whining again, but in my original posting I asked about physiological effects of red out. Byt my (limited) knowledge of human eye and blood vessel structure that sort of -G rupture would be a serious wound. The blood vessels would take a good amount of time to heal, and even then the capillaries could be left cut. And that would cause some minor dysfunctionality of the eye, perhaps substituable in time (I think). And the blood left in the eye? The respiratory system works even in the fluid of the retina, but isn't it supposed to take time ? All IHMO. But if nobody is an expert, then the next time I'll take my time and find out how this is. T.Korhonen *** Women are like Thorny Roses: *** k138836@cc.tut.fi ** Look beautiful, smell fine, ** Physics & Something *** a moment and then they wither away *** ------------------------------- From: MORGAN@WVUGEO.WVNET.EDU Subject: Mig Enemy colors Hi All, Forgive me if this is in the manual and I am just too lazy to look for it ;-p In ground attack in Mig 29, are the enemy (coalition) forces Brown or Green and Grey? Haven't flown a ground mission yet, but I am curious. Talk about fast moving troops! I was sent on a mission to give tack air support to aid friendlies who were ambushed. I got there to find smoking wrecks. I looked around a bit but found no enemies. They either got ambushed by long range artillery (I did fly small and large radius) or the enemy made a hasty skedattle or I just plainly missed them. Boy I Love this sim!!! Scott "Only sim to be on my HD since it's release" in WV MOrgan@wvugeo.wvnet.edu" ------------------------------- From: att!ihlpf!opus@uunet.uu.net Subject: Debriefing + buffet + REAL Falcon Pilot eggenste@cantor.informatik.uni-dortmund.de writes: >Falcon 3.02 uses 3 (more?) phrases to credit a pilot for inflicting >damage to an enemy a/c, for example: > >1) "Major Bug hit a MiG-29" >2) "Major Bug destroyed a MiG-29" >3) "Major Bug got a BVR kill ..." > >What's the difference between 1) and 2)??? >I wonder whether this has anything to do with the occasional >problem that a mission is registered a failure because >"you failed to destroy a single enemy aircraft" although the >debriefing mentioned a lot of enemy aircraft being (at least) hit. I wonder too! I hope someone can shed some light on this. Do you have to actually watch the plane plow into the ground or have it explode in midair to get credit? >P.S.: Suggestion for F4: indicated airspeed display *and* flight-model! >This is at the very top of my wish list! Does MiG-29 have it? Yes, it does. Even better, airspeed can be toggled from indicated to true. Even Strike Commander already had this! >As a by-product, this would probably require the mission >planning system to incorporate timed waypoints, because >otherwise it would be *very* hard to coordinate different >flights at different altitudes Nah, you just use true airspeed for navigating and indicated airspeed for combat. Each has its use. -- intgp1!bash@uunet.UU.NET (Thomas W Basham) writes: >Subject: Buffet - One Possible Reason > >>One of my friends had the fortune of riding in the backseat of an F-15. He >>mentioned that at high G's there was some type of buffetting, vibration, or > >One possibility is stall buffet. Of the sims on the market, only SVGA-AW >(and maybe Tornado) model stall buffet. The idea is catching on, though, >and a few future products will also include this. Actually, the SVGA Air Warrior manual states that planes will buffet any time you exceed 3 Gs. The reason the sim only buffets when you are on the edge of a stall is that the beta testers complained that it was too difficult to detect when you're about to stall, so the buffet was used as a cue. >Semi-related topic: I only recently learned this. Not all aircraft buffet >before stalling. This was a problem for many WWII aircraft. The P-51 in particular gave you no warning of a stall at all. In a Spitfire, the first warning you get of an impending stall is total loss of aileron effectiveness, not buffetting. Planes with a noticable pre-stall buffet were considered much easier to fly in combat, as you might guess. -- Stuart Butts <71553.356@CompuServe.COM> writes: > >BTW, this is my first post to the falcon3 list here on INTERNET. Oh, I'm a >flight test engineer, that's why I have F-16/T-38/+others flight time. Now you've gone and done it; you've admitted to being a fighter pilot. Expect to be deluged with stupid questions! Here's the first one. :^) Does the F-16 buffet when you pull lots of Gs even when well within the envelope? What pre-stall warnings are there? Welcome to the mailing list! Rob opus@ihlpf.att.com ------------------------------- [[ End of digest Volume 4 : Issue 33 ]]