To: falcon3 (Falcon3 Mailing list) Reply-To: falcon3 (Falcon3 Mailing list) Errors-To: postmaster@onion.rain.com Precedence: bulk Bcc: falcon3-outgoing Subject: Falcon3 Digest V3 : I76 Falcon3 Digest Volume 3 : Issue 76 Sun Jul 11 22:29:57 PDT 1993 Compilation copyright (C) 1993 Jeff Beadles Send submissions to "falcon3@onion.rain.com" Send add/drop requests to "majordomo@onion.rain.com" Archives are available via ftp from onion.rain.com [147.28.0.161] Today's Topics: *IMPORTANT* Announcing a new mailing Jeff Beadles Falcon 3.02 questions. HNRSALEE@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu tornado landings Robear ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Jeff Beadles Subject: *IMPORTANT* Announcing a new mailing list Well, I've thought about it quite a bit, talked to a few of you from the mailing list, and have decided to start a second mailing list. First off, the Falcon3 mailing list will stay the same, in the same format, content (Falcon3/OFT stuff only), etc. The only effect to the Falcon3 list is that I'm going to be less tollerant of non-Falcon3 stuff on the list. (Announcements of other sims are welcome, but for example, the tornado traffic will be moving.) The new list is specifically for graphical (not board-game) high-end simulations of "wargames". (eg; Planes, tanks, submarines, etc...) Note, that this is not limited to flight-sim's. My hope, is that it will cover the Electronic Battlefield series, and other high-quality simulations as they become available. The charter is much broader in scope than the Falcon3 charter. If anything, that's the only real downfall of the F3 list. (In my opinion at least. It made it almost impossible to expand to anything but Falcon3.) A few questions/answers, and then I'll give you the subscription information. Q: Will the Falcon3 list stay around? A: I have no plans on dropping the list, however I do expect that many of the people will either join both lists, or drop the Falcon3 list. Falcon3 is a subset of the new list, but has a strong history of solid, useful information, and is generally well-liked. Q: Will the new list be digestified? A: Yes. I suspect that the volume of the list will be high enough to demand this. It also helps keep the noise out of the list, and from crashing poor onion.rain.com. (Sparc 10 or 486/66 donations anyone? :-) Q: I'm already on the Falcon3 list. Do I need to subscribe to the new list? A: Not unless you want to. I am *NOT* assuming that everyone will want to subscribe to the new list, and thus am not globally moving the 500+ people that are currently on the F3 list to the new list. Subscription info is attached below. Q: Will messages from the Falcon3 list be forwarded to the new list? A: GOOD QUESTION. I don't have a concrete answer for this, but my gut reaction is no. The reason for this, is that if the person who sends the question is on the Falcon3 mailing list, and the answerer is on the new list, then the submittor won't see the answer anyway. I'll probably forward key important messages between the lists, if it seems appropriate. Q: What about OFT? Mig-29? Where is the proper place to talk about them? A: They are add-on's for Falcon3, and can be discussed in either list. Q: Is this list associated with Spectrum Holobyte, or any other company? A: Nope. I'm just a happy paying customer of simulators. There are (were?) Spectrum Holobyte employee(s?) on the list. They do listen to what we say, and have actively solicited comments in the past. (I'd be happy to beta test/review games sims, if the companies were interested.) Q: Why do you run these lists? A: Because I haven't learned better. :-) Actually though, I'm just a flight- simulation nut. There was a lot of interest in Falcon3 quite some time ago on Usenet, but the signal-to-noise ratio there was too low. (too much noise.) I, in a weak moment offered to host the list, and have been running it ever since. (It's been active since around the end of September 1992.) Really though, I do enjoy it, and the information that is gleemed from it. Ok, on to the important stuff -- How to subscribe to the new list. Send mail to "majordomo@onion.rain.com". In the BODY (not subject!) of the message, include a line that reads: subscribe hitech-sim On many unix systems, you can simply say: echo subscribe hitech-sim | mail majordomo@onion.rain.com That's it. I've disabled outgoing messages for a day or two, until the people who attempt to subscribe by sending to everyone on the list dies off. (1/2 :-) Expect to see the first digest by the end of the week. If you have any questions, comments, sparc-10 donations :-), flames, whatever send them to me at jeff@onion.rain.com. -Jeff - -- Jeff Beadles jeff@onion.rain.com ------------------------------- From: HNRSALEE@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Falcon 3.02 questions. This is directed to all you Mig-29 owners who get the Fal3.02 update. Fortunetly I shall soon join you as soon as the UPS guy swings by w/ my package. The question is: what does the 3.02 update improve? A list would be nice. [ Off hand, I dunno. You might try asking Spectrum Holobyte. :-) -Jeff ] Thanks, --Paul ------------------------------- From: Robear Subject: tornado landings Thanks for all the help! I am now happily landing in Tornado. My problem was, oddly, that I was following the directions exactly. It says to activate the Thrust Reversers upon touchdown, then go to full throttle. So I would touch down, bang the backspace key and then pop the engines back on. Nowhere did it say "Crush the backspace key like a small, noxious insect until you reach 80 knots". I had to scour the manual for the note that this key is *not* a toggle, but needs a continuous press. So for anyone who finds that activating the TR's will speed you up, take my advice and lean on the backspace key until things get better. David "Repair Time: 1:40" Pipes ------------------------------- [[ End of digest Volume 3 : Issue 76 ]]